tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post3359927141319645573..comments2023-06-27T06:49:13.340-05:00Comments on Drew's Day: Break the cycle of Khan Academy criticisms and responsesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-3030938992800034902012-08-06T17:39:29.120-05:002012-08-06T17:39:29.120-05:00Great work. And it's so funny to see Mr. Backp...Great work. And it's so funny to see Mr. Backpack TV trawling for criticism of his pal, Sal, so he can post a link to his utterly clueless defense, never disclosing his vested interest in KA, the intertwining of his products with Sal's, and as already pointed out here in the comments, doing a lovely job of following the pattern of Khan's Kadre of Kounter-Kriticism, filled with vapid nonsense that never addresses the issues. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18420674456589471004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-71182430200364273072012-08-05T16:17:05.928-05:002012-08-05T16:17:05.928-05:00As I follow this, I still haven't found anyone...As I follow this, I still haven't found anyone who can point me to another source beside Stump1999 that say slope is a functional property , which I assume means a property of a function . Stump 1999 has a list of teacher interpretations of slope: this doesn't mean they are correct. Sal is correct. And the teachers are looking rather petty and foolish in this software engineer's view....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02997606024142561072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-62614824719044194752012-07-28T13:18:44.958-05:002012-07-28T13:18:44.958-05:00The time at which lists of points in dispute are m...The time at which lists of points in dispute are made in not a cycle point. It is an important stage in debate. The debate is barely being joined when lists are prepared of what the charges are and what the defenses are.<br /><br />You should also formulate what you think the list of charges and particulars are against Khan. How can the defenders of Khan defend him until they see a numbered list of charges with specifics?<br /><br />Due process to Khan means that he is due a list of charges with specifics and to see the evidence against him. A list of videos is evidence, it is not the same as a written list of specific charges.<br /><br />The prosecutor does not get to bring a big bag of videos into court and tell the judge and jury to sort out what the charges are and whether the defendant is guilty.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03428538891184476184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-73961088404448497602012-07-28T13:15:45.838-05:002012-07-28T13:15:45.838-05:00Welp, except for the lack of criticizing the criti...Welp, except for the lack of criticizing the critiques, the backpack.tv "defense" fits solidly into the list above. He assumes that things are going to be improved -- even though only a single video has been edited, after lots of publicity, and no statement of intent to edit has been made (rather, we're all nitpickers), and says that the videos are great for learning something new -- I would ask how many he's seen, and what he learned... I did, but don't expect an answer.SiouxGeonzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852040976080951492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-83996488643454920152012-07-27T12:26:10.510-05:002012-07-27T12:26:10.510-05:00Backpack TV video response to Mystery Teacher Thea...Backpack TV video response to Mystery Teacher Theater 2000 and in defense of Sal Khan and Khan Academy.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fhZ8_Gge54Joe Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239872035289587596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-26407278093595032032012-07-26T16:08:51.239-05:002012-07-26T16:08:51.239-05:00What makes me queasy is the "now teachers can...What makes me queasy is the "now teachers can differentiate!" claim. I'm afraid the translation is: "YOu're not keeping up? Go watch the Khan Academy video until you got it." <br /> Got what? His take on the procedure, with nothing to hang it on -- and you'd better be able to ferret out the procedure between his mistakes, which are even more common in the m ost basic arithmetic videos. Even when he self corrects ("I don't mean 6 x 2, I mean six times itself two times! Remember that, six times itself!") it's not clear. <br /> You don't want a STEM career, since you've gotten the message that you can't do math, so you're on a back burner -- and now you can't do much of anything because you've bombed that college placement test.SiouxGeonzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852040976080951492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-43855842778937510172012-07-26T14:18:41.311-05:002012-07-26T14:18:41.311-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245342308311618547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-1382142874274220422012-07-26T14:13:54.240-05:002012-07-26T14:13:54.240-05:00How great would it be to be replaced!? Then I cou...How great would it be to be replaced!? Then I could move on to a more lucrative career!<br /><br />Seriously though, if we can filter out the noise and rhetoric, there is a really cool, really deep discussion taking place that fascinates me.Marshall Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04448166701872031677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-61363788879001857282012-07-26T13:47:04.707-05:002012-07-26T13:47:04.707-05:00But schools have always faced the threat of less r...But schools have always faced the threat of less revenue and possible consolidation. If you have less tax revenue because the population is shrinking in your area, you have fewer students in the school. If you have less tax revenue because the economy tanked, then you're in a similar boat as much of the rest of the country. Either way, using KA as a solution to save money is short-sighted, ultimately won't work, and it isn't the intent of KA.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546307689313619934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-64720109428655745102012-07-26T13:39:52.072-05:002012-07-26T13:39:52.072-05:00Mark me down as one teacher afraid that Kahn acade...Mark me down as one teacher afraid that Kahn academy will take teacher jobs. I look at states like Idaho, that tried to push through online learning in response to reduced tax revenue. If Kahn says to a state: here's how you can hire 1/3 less teachers, I bet it would be a big fight to keep them from implementing the KA model.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-51471559069636260272012-07-26T13:23:18.270-05:002012-07-26T13:23:18.270-05:00To expand on the previous comment, another defense...To expand on the previous comment, another defense I've heard is "This is disruptive technology, so it's rough now, but improvements will come over time." To which you might reply, How long will this take? And will students have moved on by that point? And aren't we able to make instructional materials good the first time?Robert Talberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00742845053131481875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-27895861004279335462012-07-26T13:22:59.573-05:002012-07-26T13:22:59.573-05:00You're right, I did leave off the money issue....You're right, I did leave off the money issue. It's probably not well known that all 501c3 corporations (KA being one) have to make public their tax filings each year. They have released 2008-2010 and filed for an extension on 2011. 2010 was the first year that Sal Khan took a salary. It's public record, just like public school teachers salaries are.<br /><br /><br />Of course, that doesn't include speaker fees and travel compensation like you point out. I do feel it's important that people realize he is being compensated just like teachers are. But, just as teachers can teach because they love it and still get paid, Sal Khan and his staff can do what they love and still get paid. So in the end, i feel it doesn't really do much to respond to them on the money issue.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546307689313619934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23903680.post-21507154743708777572012-07-26T13:06:18.894-05:002012-07-26T13:06:18.894-05:00I wonder whether the same people post "why ca...I wonder whether the same people post "why can't you do better?" as post "You're just afraid of competition." All bases are covered! <br /><br />Trolls aside, I ponder the rising to defense. You've left off the "hey, he quit is job, and is doing non-profit -- of course it's not perfect!" cries (to which I say -- millions of dollars in grants may be legally non-profit, but I want to know whether he stays in the same kind of accommodations teachers would stay in when he's doing those public speaking engagements...)SiouxGeonzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852040976080951492noreply@blogger.com